Puma, stop making your kids take photos. Another PUMA weekend round up

Sorry for my absence the past few days. I've been out of town, super sick, and busy having a life! But Patrick has been doing a wonderful job with his amazing posts.

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These poor kids- look how full of it they are! You know they are pissed that their moms are making them pose for this:

Now, of course, I can't PROVE that these are children of PUMAs (they could just be some asshole rich kid Obama supporters who PUMA tried to photoshop into deluded teens), but we also can't PROVE that they weren't given t-shirts, $20, and told to pose or else no one would be going to Cabo for spring break this year!

We figured it out thanks to the mastermind behind the lie. this photo by danceswithpumas is a photoshop job. She admitted it. Sometimes it feels good to tell the truth. Then she ran to her mommy Murphy and took it down so that murphy wouldn't get into trouble.

Seems like there has been more "in-fighting" on the PUMApac front:

"256 Rodham in Flag on 08.02.08 at 5:08 pm
Well this is how it is for me - I have been a lurking for a long time - started posting for about a week now - did my prowls - got two superdelegates to sign the petition for Hillary - sent letters to all the Jewish communities - volunteered to help Trish on her projects - and now I am embarrassed of this site - I read all over the other blogs highlighted copies of the constant bickering that goes on here - everyone seems to have too much time on their hands instead of doing action items - instead of attacking each other why don’t you help to get the job done - what we all wanted being the reason we are here - I am done with you all - MURPHY - MARYLAND PUMA please put my name on your DO NOT CALL LIST - good luck to all of you - I am going to another site that does attack its own kind like a black widow spider -"

And our "friend" Knoxville got the shaft from Queen Bee Murphy after giving her his money:

Murphy has "disinvited" (i.e. banned without warning or discussion)

Knoxville Puma

from PUMA PAC website because of comments that she has deemed "detrimental" to us achieving HER, er... our goals.

She claimed that her reasons were the quality of the content of my comments. Joke.

DancesWithPumas (#170 DancesWithPumas on 08.02.08 at 3:44 pm) invoked both sexism (saying that she dislikes me because I am a man) and insults against me personally, as did Anna7000 and #275 Bill-K (who at #275 - 08.02.08 at 5:15 pm - called links to my letters 'SPAM' as though I were trying to sell you magazines or whatever).

As for me, I will be publishing a post at

www.NotFallingInLine.org

explaining exactly why I left this site in full detail and why I have decided to give up on making contributions to this very worthy cause.

Take down the link:

www.NotFallingInLine.org

PA4Hill and many others have already figured Murphy out for exactly what she is. Many PUMAs will remember that I, Knoxville PUMA, left Murphy's site for a long while -from the end of June to the middle of July -, and then returned with a separate website so that I would no longer enable someone like Murphy to use my work to promote her site and rake in money that just disappears.

PUMAs want to continue helping Murphy promote this site and so help her rake in money that ends up God only knows where? Fine.

As for me, I will be publishing a post at

www.NotFallingInLine.org

explaining exactly why I left PUMA PAC in the first place in full detail and why I have decided to give up on making contributions to this very worthy cause.

Ah, yet another entirely avoidable impasse created by bad leadership, i.e. people like Murphy who care nothing for the goals we seek to achieve as long as she's raking in the money...

Sincerely,

Knoxville Puma

Also, can someone please explain to me why Darragh Murphy wants to be Michael Moore? PUMAs new gripe film, "The Audacity of Democracy." (oooooo how original ::eyeroll::) shows in grave detail how PUMAS are LITERALLY a bunch of thieves, while capturing a PUMA (unnamed person) openly stealing files from an office and driving off, the official comes out and says that they are NOT allowed to take the propoerty off the grounds and that they are calling security. PUMAs are breaking the law, on camera!! 

This whole thing is getting like a sad comedy. Why are there no sources in this docu-melodrama? Why are the people being interviewed without their names being released?

Also, why does Murphy come across as some religious zealot during the ENTIRE preview? Every time they show this woman she is talking about religious symbolism and how it relates to Obama and his supporters.

Who is the nutjob singing for the camera? Who is the douche in the hat waxing poetic in the middle of the field? Why is the font similar to that of Star Wars? SO MANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS!

And is that Riverdaughter? Surely I thought Riverdaughter would be some intellectual hippie. Now I just think she is a crazed loon with two tabs in her browser open at all times; her blog, thesaurus.com. Though we shouldn't go there, as to not be deemed a "troll zone" (every time you are critical of princess dingleberry.. I mean.. goldberry.. I mean.. riverdaughter you are deemed a troll).

Well, have a great day Democrats.

Comments

[Jeff]

Those Obama shirts looked Photoshopped.

"The Audacity is Democracy" is going to be one of the best parodies ever.

I'm sure there will be more than a few questions about exactly how Darragh spent that donation money, especially now that her drones are abandoning ship.

[Jeff]

All you really need to know about the "growth" if the puma movement can be found here:

http://tinyurl.com/58wmtq

[Rodent of Ill Repute]

The irony of their religious allegories is that they treat Hillary as if she never made a mistake- whether in the campaign process or in her political life. At least on pro-Obama blogs like DailyKos there is criticism of their candidate. When's the last time you saw anyone criticizing Hillary on NoQredibility?

And heaven forbid a political candidate inspire people. Why is that necessarily a bad thing? Would they rather Obama draw five people in the cheese section of a Piggly Wiggly?

That trailer is pathetic. They go on and on about voter intimidation, but all they offer is some unsourced anecdotes. I guess the Gestapo tactics will be proven in the theatrical release. Yeah, right after they show the Whitey Tape.

I laughed when Murphy acted like she's the one who gets it- and that the majority of democrats are being duped. Yeah, so voting against your values to punish a democratic leadership for enforcing the rules that ALL campaigns had agreed to is the sane position.

I can guarantee these PUMAs didn't raise any questions about Michigan and Florida when they thought HIllary was going to run away with the nomination after Super Tuesday. This proves that they don't care about democracy. They don't even care about HIllary at this point. They want attention and adulation on their little echo chamber blogs.

[L33tminion]

> PUMAs new gripe film

Let's see if I get the message:
* People want to kill Obama, so he shouldn't win
* Obama supporters are rigging the election!
* Obama is popular, OMG CULT!
* Obama supporters are popular, especially among eachother, OMG CULT!
* Obama supporters want to convince other people to support Obama, OMG... you get the idea
* Obama = white males stealing the election (you wonder what of black people, until you realize "from white women" is implied)
* There are no demographic differences between primaries and caucuses, ergo CONSPIRACY!
* The Obama people don't care about the rules

[Patrick McKinnion]

Those are NOT happy looking kids.

Wonder how many of them are thinking "Oh God, please don't let my friends see this picture. Oh, and don't let mom find my Obama t-shirt and buttons. Thanks!"

[Christina]

Jeff- I think you're right. I added that to the piece, the more you look at it, the more it looks FAKE. the "N" for the "NObama" is higher than the rest of the letters.

[monkeywrench]

I hope that Bob Dylan, songwriter of "The Mighty Quinn", shoves a big copyright infringement lawsuit up some Puma's #ss!
Maybe that will lower their enthusiasm for all this juvenile behavior. Somebody wants more than their 15 minutes on the public stage at Hillary Clinton's, Barack Obama's and donor's (that are paying for this garbage)expense.

[David]

Speculation on these kids might not be constructive, BUT (haha) my money is on them being phonies. Republican youth in PUMA garb.

[ObamaVoter]

Thanks for this site, I just found it clicking around and already my blood pressure is a little bit lower knowing I'm not the only one wanting to spit bullets.

Do you folks need any help?

[ObamaVoter]

Points I think need repeating to counter this crap.

1. At 1/2 strenght both FL/MI are still worth more than about 14 other states as far as votes per delegate goes.

2. Hillary surrogates in the DNC voted to strip FL/MI.

3. Hillary surrogates voted for the fl/mi resolution at the RBC

4. Both the FL and MI delegations got what they asked for going into the RBC.

5. That the rbc even met was out of respect for the Clintons.

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Christina

Jeff- I think you're right. I added that to the piece, the more you look at it, the more it looks FAKE. the "N" for the "NObama" is higher than the rest of the letters.

Yeah, looks like it may have been a "legit" photo and then someone just added the "N" for NObama, added the red X on the poster and the red slash on the chubby kid's t-shirt, and removed the "8" in the '08s.

If that's the case, the original image is likely out there on the web somewhere.

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[Litlebritdifrnt]

Just my two pennorth, I copied and pasted the shot into Printmaster (cause I'm too lazy to mess with PS right now) but if you zoom in on these three areas you will see that it is obviously a poor PS job. a) the red X on the Obama poster overlaps the guy's right (our left) finger. b) the red X on the girls t-shirt stops short of the guy's arm (which it should not) and you can clearly see the clone stamp tool area where the 8 has been removed from the girls t-shirt.

Oooooooh isn't this fun we have our own little conspiracy thingy going on. I might actually have to take the time and pull this through into PS!

[Christina]

litlebritdifrnt- awesome! can you send me an enlarged copy highlighting the faulty parts??
yestodemocracy@gmail.com

[Wendy~Dem4life]

It was killing me so I just had to look at the areas you mentioned and I did it in windows paint...and OMG it's so clear..for the love of God do they really think people are that dumb?

[Wendy~Dem4life]

Oppsss forgot to mention another puma bit the dust
irish4mccain has been ousted...they are dropping like flies over there. So ok whos got the cult mentality?

[David]

Photoshopped, eh.

It begs the question as to whom these youngins are in the picture and if they are yet aware. If it were me and I found myself misrepresented like that, I'd more pissed than Jerome Corsi at a rainbow gathering.

[HillaryClinton4BarackObama]

That is a photoshop. I have the original picture. if i were those kids in the pic i will file a suit against the puma pac for defamation. Matter of fact I will send one of those kids an email and see if that is doable. These fraudulent feline extremists need to be ousted ..

[David]

Nice!

In case I hadn't said so before, this site rocks!

[Furious Vegas]

It's 100% fake! I increased the resolution in photoshop and zoomed in on the slash on the girl on the right. It doesn't even extend all the way to the kid's arm.

More evidence on the kid holding the sign. With increased resolution, if you zoom in where the "8" should be, you can see where the clone stamp tool was used, because the pixels don't look exactly as they should. You can clearly see where the area that was cloned, and there is an abrupt absense of the verticle wrinkle that should pass right through the missing 8.

This is def. copywright infringement, and should be forwarded to the Obama campaign. HillaryClinton4BarackObama, please send a copy of the original and the altered image to a contact at the Obama campaign, and send them links to the addresses of the original and the puma copy.

[Lori]

As one of the filmmakers, I thought I'd answer a couple of your questions.

1. Sandra Crenshaw is the woman who is given the list of complaints filed over the election. She phoned ahead and told them she wanted a copy of the list - it's public information. We went in there with our cameras rolling, and as the clerk handed Sandra the notebooks, she says, "these are the notebooks I was told to give you." she offers Sandra two to choose between.Sandra figures out what she wants and asks for copies. The woman instructs her to take the notebook. Outside the office, Sandra hands off to me and I immediately leave to go make copies. Sandra and Brad do a couple more interviews, and it's about 40 minutes later before they want the notebook back. I have the entire encounter start to finish on tape. No one stole anything. The office, no doubt, had second thoughts about turning that information over to a well-known activist being trailed by a film crew.

2. It's unsourced because it's a quick, casual trailer that was assembled for a fundraising effort and only wound up on YouTube because we were experimenting with their high resolution upgrade. No one is more stunned than the filmmakers at the number of hits this clip has received. We didn't post it anywhere. MassLib found it and put it up of her own volition. From there, other sites started linking.

3. The guy in the hat is Pacific John. He's a well-known, well-thought of Democratic operative who puts a lot of time in on Democratic campaigns.

4. You don't get the documentation in the trailer. You don't get documentation in any trailer. There's just not enough time.

I hope that answers your questions.

[DancesWithPumas]

Just dropped by to tell you that I'm sorry you wasted so much time examining that little graphic. I thought it was obvious to the naked eye that it was Photoshopped. If I wanted to fool anyone, I would have taken more than 20-30 minutes to create it. It was meant as a bit of satire. Have a good week. Best, dwp.

[Christina]

HillaryClinton4barackobama- Hey, can you send me the original? yestodemocracy@gmail.com

[Christina]

DWP- Oh, don't apologize. It wasn't a waste, but a joy, seeing you have to create a lie.

but, seriously, you should probably tell murphy to take it off her blog since I am about to find out who the people in this photo are and they will PROBABLY not want you screwing with their photos, heartless woman. It's called "copyright infringement."

[Christina]

Lori- Thank you for contacting us. But no, your group stole public property. You were probably not allowed to be leaving grounds with that information, yet, in the film you are.

Oh and this the Mrs. Crenshaw who stole hundreds of Obama sign-in sheets to "correct?" According to the Dallas Morning News it is.

You should really do some fact-checking before you lose all credibility- oh wait- you already did.
Sorry.

[Lori]

Sandra Crenshaw's story is told with documention from the Democratic State Committee (the entity which investigates all precinct convention complaints) and the police records. We've done plenty of fact checking. Those investigations transpired in the months following the election - not at the point where the Dallas News ran their story. Suffice to say, Sandra will be precinct captain in her next election.

Anyway, no, nothing was stolen.

I just thought you might be interested in hearing what the response to your complaints was but I guess I overestimated you.

Have at it.

[Betty Cracker]

Hey Lori, can you let us know whether or not Murphy reported the caller who allegedly contacted her to propose joining forces with PUMA to assassinate Obama to the Secret Service? That's a pretty serious charge. The Secret Service may be interested in examining Murphy's phone records.

Also, can you shed any light on how an anti-Obama lunatic contacting Murphy about an assassination plot demonstrates that Obama supporters are deranged cultists? It seems to me that episode implies just the opposite. Kthnxbai.

[Christina]

Suffice to say, Sandra Crenshaw is a thief and a liar who you are touting as some respected public official.
She stole pro-obama documents in hopes of altering/"correcting"/destroying them, c'mon.. call a spade a spade.
Oh, I want to hear what you have to say. I just don't want to hear crazy drivel. Which is what your docu-melodrama is looking a lot like.

[Kevin K.]

I'm also a little confused. The day you filmed her reporting that someone called her saying they wanted to kill Obama was the same day Murphy reported on her blog that she had received a death threat. Did both threats come from the same guy?

Sandra will be precinct captain in her next election.

This is where I agree with you PUMAs that the Democratic party is fucked. Crenshaw's comments around the blogosphere (with rambling out-of-nowhere references to everything from car bombs to cactus juice) are a pretty clear indication that she's not "capable" of being a precinct captain.

[Patrick McKinnion]

"Just dropped by to tell you that I'm sorry you wasted so much time examining that little graphic. I thought it was obvious to the naked eye that it was Photoshopped. If I wanted to fool anyone, I would have taken more than 20-30 minutes to create it. It was meant as a bit of satire. Have a good week. Best, dwp."

Translation: "Damn! They figured out I photoshopped it and it's as fake as every other PUMA claim! How do I spin this? Wait, I'll call it satire and mock the people who claimed it was a fake!"

[USMarine]

"DWP- Oh, don't apologize. It wasn't a waste, but a joy, seeing you have to create a lie."

I don't see that DWP created a lie. She explained that her picture was satirical. Do you not understand the difference?

My wife was in Germany on furlough when Obama visited. Di you know that the big draw was a favorite rock band concert and free food and drinks? Obama and media played it like they were there for him! Obama held a rally in NYC's Central Park, and only a smattering of Obama supporters showed up. Seems closer to the truth.

You really should be out there building support for Obama instead of jerking each other off with this ridiculous chat stuff. You sound like jealous morons. It makes you look bad, as in immature and stoopid.