David Shuster OWNS PUMA on hardball- YOU'RE WELCOME DARRAGH.

Ha! Darragh and Bower just got schooled on MSNBC. I cannot WAIT to see the youtube clips of this one. I am glad shuster was on because he is my favorite!

A friend of mine knew the producer of the hardball segment. He sent me their email. I emailed them the following:

I'm Christina from http://yestodemocracy.com and I have a myriad of information that is relevant to your segment tonight (and any puma segment you may be interested in doing in the future).

Since the inception of the PUMA movement their tactics have had very little to do with promoting Hillary Clinton and more to do with tearing Senator Obama down. They will openly admit that their cause is "no longer about Hillary" though they use her name as a platform to pontificate their right-wing agenda. Nominate the Republican. Each week the goal posts change. It has become a witch hunt, a collaborative agenda to SMEAR not only Obama but the DNC and the Democratic Party. This coalition DOES NOT contain millions and my highest estimates put them in the 20K figure but even then, many say I am being too nice.

It's been a "scatter and attack" campaign. In other words- a swift boat organization. They highly censor and moderate their plethora of sites, banning and deleting anyone with objective opinion in order to keep their constituents from possibly facing the grim reality that Hillary Clinton's loss was not simply due to "the DNC anointing their chosen one." and in order to continue with their possible delusion that THEY -the PUMAs- make up the majority.

Some major points.

1. Darragh Murphy donated hundreds of dollars to John McCain in 2000 and voted for him in the 2000 primary what credibility does she have?  http://yestodemocracy.typepad.com/yes_to_democracy_no_to_pu/2008/06/puma-founded--1.html
   
2. It is a conflict of interest on her part- investing in a Republican front-runner, and gunning for him in 2008.
3. Will Bower lied on national television saying that he and PUMA paid of Hillary Clinton's debt by raising 6 -10 million when as it turns out- is an outright lie.
4. Can you really trust her "sole intentions" of getting a "true roll call" and "keeping the Democratic Party Democratic" when she is a member of "PUMA" the party unity my ass group who is avidly PRO-MCCAIN (documented evidence of PUMA/Just Say No Deal being pro-mccain: http://www.yestodemocracy.com/yes_to_democracy_no_to_pu/2008/07/hey-puma--i-tho.html

These are a group of people who give credence to most disgusting insults and vitriol toward Senator Obama, and Darragh Murphy chimes right on in- some days leading the way. Do you know that her official statements from an article written about yes to democracy was, "Christina is a piece of shit." Way to be a feminist: http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/07/19/pumapac-strikes-back-stupid-piece-of/

They tout "affirmative action candidate" in their comments- pray that the "blacks do not take over" and allow things like "in order to beat Obama supporters, we need to cut their welfare checks" to be brought up during their daily group think. And this is WITH high moderation and censorship.

Just SOME documented Puma racism:

• http://www.yestodemocracy.com/yes_to_democracy_no_to_pu/2008/08/more-puma-racis.html
• http://www.yestodemocracy.com/yes_to_democracy_no_to_pu/2008/07/another-bathshi.html
• http://www.yestodemocracy.com/yes_to_democracy_no_to_pu/2008/07/page/5/
• http://www.yestodemocracy.com/yes_to_democracy_no_to_pu/2008/07/horrifying-puma.html

They are also blaming the death of Gwatney on the DNC:
http://www.yestodemocracy.com/yes_to_democracy_no_to_pu/2008/08/arkansas-democr.html

Surprise- most of these comments were lifted right from Darragh Murphy's blog.

Everything on yes to democracy in regards to puma is taken right from PUMA sites. I take screenshots of their words, the photos they create. I post links to their hypocrisy, and even try to provide context when I see something incendiary written by one of their talking heads. Most times I am met with hostility.

PUMA blames the DNC for every mean-spirited attack against Senator Clinton, but when I point out their vitriol, they say they are not responsible. Why? Why is the DNC responsible for its constituents but PUMA is not responsible for theirs? That is a fair question, no?

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and judging from the interview... I think they used  some of it!! Darragh and Bower- you looked SOOOOOO BAD. And I am pleased to know I had a SMALL part in it.

YOU'RE WELCOME DARRAGH

Signed,
The piece of shit.

Comments

[Pumalicious!]

Nice work, Christina. They better scurry back to Fox, because it's the only network that's going to coddle them. They go anywhere else and they look like total idiots.

[polo]

I have a full on blog crush.

Smart, funny, politically aware and active, smoking hot, and you wrote/write a sex column?

Swoon.

[Petey Wheatstraw]

Christina, you are the best!

Great job....as per usual.

[Jennyjinx]

It's up.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/26208124#26208124

[Jennyjinx]

Clickable link

[Jennyjinx]

By the way, Darragh looks like she's shell shocked and Will is clearly losing his mind.

[Lynx]

Just watched the clip, they were utterly destroyed. My favorite was when he put up Hillary Clinton asking people to get behind Obama and publicly denouncing PUMA and then asked them how they could call themselves Clinton supporters.

Darragh looks unwell. A bit like Ann Coulter, but without the amphetamines.

[Bill]

We are getting slammed and it is gonna get ugly.

Get prepared, claws out

http://www.reason.com/blog/show/128113.html

http://www.rumproast.com/index.php/site/comments/the_truth_about_puma_conference_08_you_cant_spell_conference_without_c_o_n/

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/08/among-the-pumas.html

[David Schultz]

I LOVE THIS VIDEO!!

Christina, you are my favorite piece of shit :) :) :) :) :)

Wake up call!

Go running back to the Fox!

[David Schultz]

PS. $50,000?? I didn't even finish college.. I'm 29.. and I make more than that in 1 year!! lol

[polo]

LOL.

At 7:38 in the vid. Murph says their largest donation is 2500.

oops....

To our good friend in California, a HUGE Puma PAC hug for your extremely generous contribution on Friday. Yesterday Puma PAC received a donation of $10,000 from a group of Pumas in Texas who are DETERMINED to see the Puma Movement succeed.

and...

We are planning to reach out to as many Hillary supporters and leaders as we can to help fund our film. For those individuals or groups who are able and willing to contribute $2,500 or more, you will be credited as an Associate Producer on the film. Send me an email at murphy@pumapac.org if you would like to learn more. Contribute to the Puma PAC film HERE and Thank you!

[Pumalicious!]

Keep digging it up kids...

http://digg.com/politics/The_Super_Secret_2008_PUMA_Conference_revealed

[HC4BO]

Da Rag could NOT even look into the camera because she was afraid to tell the TRUTH ...

Will almost burst into a full blown epileptic fit with all that hate ...

Shuster just murked them perpetually ...

NB: Before the interview Da Rag was on her blog promoting it ...

After the interview she is MIA. I know she can be found in her basement crying her eyes out ...

[Kat68]

Wonderful job, Christina!

I have so enjoyed watching you eviscerate the PUMAs here. It is clear that Shuster had his talking points today in his epic take-down of these two loons. I credit you, as it is clear NBC's own research team is somewhat lacking. Thank you so much for all of your great work...someone had to do it and you stepped up to the plate. Bravo!

[Grace]

I saw the video and these two people look absolutely ridiculous and make absolutely no sense.

Christina, great work.

[Liz I.]

What happened to the buses to Denver? Remember those?

There was:

http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/07/03/denver-overnight/ DENVER UPDATE, July 3, 2008 at 12:35pm: TRAVEL UPDATE! Puma PAC will be providing buses from New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Dallas, Jacksonville, and Washington DC to bring Pumas from all across the country to Denver, starting on August 24th. Please help pay for these buses. Many Pumas will find it difficult to pay for getting the time off, motels, food etc. Let’s help as many Puma PAC members as we can join us in Denver. This is a special BUSES TO DENVER FUND. All donations made here will go EXCLUSIVELY to paying for buses. If we can raise enough to hire 100 buses, then hell yes we’ll do it. If 20,000 members each throw in $10 bucks for a free ride to Denver for a fellow Puma we’ll have enough for 500 buses. Grab your fanny packs and get your days off from work Pumas. We’ll have a mighty convoy to Denver rolling on August 24th!

And then there was:

http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/07/23/puma-pac-lions-share-on-no-we-wont-radio/ Speaking of Denver. Folks, each bus costs between $8,000 and $14,000 (depending on starting point). Puma PAC members have been VERY generous, but to be brutally honest, we are going to have to raise quite a bit more to get a bus traveling to Denver from New York, Los Angeles, Dallas, Chicago, and Jacksonville — that’s over $60,000. SO, have a drink tonight at the Lion’s Share and join the fun. A beer or glass of wine costs $10. Mixed drinks are $20. But feel free to tip generously if you can. Water is always free!

But as of August 12th, they hadn't raised enought money for even one bus to Denver:

And finally, we are matching Puma Angels with Pumas in need for traveling to Denver. Since we were unable to raise enough funds for a sufficient number of buses to Denver, we will be using the Bus Fund to help individual Puma members get there. If you (or someone you know) are a few hundred( or more) dollars short but are planning to attend PLEASE email gotodenver@pumapac.org right away and let us know what your needs are. In addition to our existing fund we have many generous offers of sponsorship from Pumas and we will match needs with resources.

Not to worry though. The important thing is not a media presence, or numbers of protesters, or even a coherent and rational position. The important thing is swag, and so they are well prepared for Denver:

#814 Maryland PUMA on 08.12.08 at 6:16 pm Hello and/or welcome to all the new and experienced PUMAs I see posting today! I have been up to my eyeballs in alligators getting our Denver goodies designed and ordered. We will have the following: Travel Mugs * Pens * Sunblock * Magnets * Lanyards * Cups (color change!) * Buttons * Balloons * Whistles * Window Clings * Bumper Stickers (4 types) * Temp Tattoos * Rally Signs * Blank Rally Signs * 2 Banners * Sun Visors * T-Shirts (2 types, 2 colors) This is a HEFTY chunk of change so let’s get those donations coming in! MarylandPUMA

All to be dispensed from their PumaPac headquarters "one block from the Pepsi Center".

But, PumaPac has spent 8000 for Lori and Brad Mays to make a "documentary" about Obama's nomination. Remember that a snippet of this "documentary" opens with Darragh Murphy recounting a death threat against Barack Obama she purportedly received. Why on earth would a documentary about PUMA feature a death threat against Obama?

Oh well, as noted yesterday, Brad May's camera was lost from his checked luggage and Lori May's notebook has also mysteriously disappeared so maybe we'll be spared this documentary, which Darragh Murphy has promised will be ready "next year." Timely, that.

[Patrick McKinnion]

Wow. Did you see Murphy's face fall when he called her on the 6 million claim??

Not to mention Bower's face as well. He looks like he's about to leap across the desk and strangle Shuster.

So, how long before PUMA starts to complain about MSNBC's "anti-Clinton bias"???

BTW Bill, great links. :-)

[Pumalicious!]

Patrick, you obviously haven't been scanning the comment threads over at the blog lately. They are pretty much foaming at their collective mouths.

[HC4BO]

Faux Noise = The Pumas Savior ...

[Tyrone]

This is news reporting. MSNBC Hardball has shown how a interview is done. When those jackasses appeared on Fox News the interviewer never questioned there logic and of course this gave them the impression they were right on their stand.

Yahoo MSNBC!!!!!!

[David]

Like other cult communities of the past based in ego and fueled on lies of 'you and me against the world', their encampment is about to become more and more entrenched and venomous against reality and the one's in their own ranks who are not yet lost completely to delusion.

It's not gonna be pretty.

[Patrick McKinnion]

"Patrick, you obviously haven't been scanning the comment threads over at the blog lately. They are pretty much foaming at their collective mouths."

Reading them right now. Wow, did #35 actually call Sen. Obama by the name of the AntiChrist in the fundie "Left Behind" books? I didn't know anyone BUT fundie right-wingers read those?

And yeah, blame MSNBC because their clowns and cult leaders got their rears handed to them by the truth and their own claims.

[TDJ]

"My understanding is that Hillary Clinton won the popular vote."

"You're understanding is wrong."

Christina, well done. It's about time these guys got a verbal beat down. Darragh looked crushed before things even began. Great work and congratulations!

[Tyrone]

Now guest i'll like to see on Hardball

Ed Hale and Momma E(Two super idiots)

Cristi Adkins

Paula Abeles

Cynthia Ruccia

I know there are but this crew of nuts are the only one I can think of now.

[Pumalicious!]

Yeah Patrick, it's true. Some of these people actually believe that Barack Obama is the anti-christ.

I'm surprised the Scientologists don't tap into this group, they could probably get some good recruits out of the ranks.

[Liz I.]

@Tyrone: Good suggestions for Hardball guests.

I'd like to add:

TexasDarlin

[Patrick McKinnion]

Pumalicious - I suspect Denver is gonna be a wake up call for these people. Not just in terms of how the convention plays out, but when it shows the world and everyone just how small of a group they really are.

Though they'll figure out a way to explain that I'm sure.

[Douglas]

Brilliant! Just brilliant. It was Will Bower himself who was touting the $6 million dollar bail out of Hillary and went as high as $10mill a few weeks ago on Cavuto.
I notice he was silent, didn't correct Schuster and left Daragh, who looked like someone had just shit in her lap, swinging in the breeze.
Puma unity my ass?

[Christina]

polo- lol. USED TO write the sex column.

[Tommy Christopher]

CC,

too funny! Here's my bit:

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/08/14/puma-de-fanged-on-hardball/1#c13706258

You gotta see the comments at PUMAPAC. Too priceless.